(0:22) Welcome to Chosen Generation (0:24) with your host, Pastor Greg Young. (0:28) But you are a chosen generation, (0:30) a royal priesthood, (0:32) a holy nation, (0:33) a peculiar people, (0:34) that you should shoe forth (0:35) the praises of Him (0:36) who has called you out of darkness (0:38) into His marvelous light, (0:39) which in time past (0:40) were not a people, (0:41) but are now the people of God, (0:43) which had not obtained mercy, (0:45) but now have obtained mercy. (0:47) And now, broadcasting live (0:49) from the KERV Revolution Broadcasting Studios (0:52) in the heart of the hill country of Texas, (0:55) Pastor Greg Young.

(1:07) And good morning. (1:08) Welcome to the program. (1:09) Great to have you with me.

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(2:13) It’s the very first time (2:14) that she’s giving an interview, (2:16) and she is the wife of Paul Slough. (2:19) Paul is one of the (2:21) Blackwater contractors (2:24) who was tried in October of 2014 (2:28) for events that took place (2:29) in 2007 in Iraq, (2:34) and in a second trial, (2:36) they have found them guilty, (2:38) but there’s a whole lot more (2:40) to this story (2:41) that needs to come out, (2:42) and we here at Chosen Generation, (2:44) as we pursue truth, (2:46) want to give opportunity (2:48) for that to happen, (2:49) and so I want to welcome (2:51) Kristen Slough to the program. (2:53) Kristen, welcome to Chosen Generation.

(2:55) It’s great to have you with me. (2:57) Thank you so much for having me. (2:58) Well, I appreciate you being here.

(3:01) You have been through quite an ordeal (3:02) over the last seven years. (3:05) Let’s start with just a little bit (3:07) of background with regards (3:09) to this situation. (3:12) Your husband was military, (3:15) active duty at one time.

(3:17) I read in the background (3:20) that there were a number (3:21) of individuals that served with him, (3:22) National Guard individuals (3:23) and so forth, (3:24) that spoke about his integrity, (3:28) his honor, how he handled himself, (3:30) how he engaged as they, (3:32) as he had other combat experience. (3:34) He took a job with Blackwater. (3:36) Fill us in with some of the background (3:38) of the mission that he was associated with (3:41) when all of this took place, (3:43) and how you first came to find out (3:46) that your husband had been (3:48) in a life or death situation.

(3:52) Just to back up a little bit (3:54) to his active duty service, (3:55) that’s correct. (3:56) He was active duty with the Army, (3:58) and then he was in the National Guard (4:01) filling out his service contract (4:03) when we met in college. (4:06) We actually left for our honeymoon (4:08) and came back, (4:09) and he had activation orders in the mail (4:11) and was gone two months later (4:13) for a year tour in Iraq.

(4:15) The job that he did (4:17) with the Army National Guard (4:18) was convoy support and security (4:19) for various missions (4:21) in hostile environments, (4:23) ran tons of missions (4:24) that were security related (4:26) and convoy support related (4:27) during that time. (4:29) He earned a field promotion (4:30) during that time, (4:31) and he also earned (4:32) his combat infantryman badge (4:34) for a situation in which he was able (4:37) to get his team out safely (4:38) without firing any shots (4:40) under an enemy attack. (4:42) When they got back at their post, (4:44) they asked him, (4:45) hey, why didn’t you shoot? (4:47) Because he was the turret gunner (4:48) during that mission, (4:49) and he said because the area (4:51) was too congested with civilians.

(4:53) So he has a documented history (4:56) of being somebody who preserves life. (4:59) That is who he is. (5:01) That is his whole point (5:02) of joining our armed forces (5:04) was to preserve life, (5:06) not just Americans, (5:08) the innocent civilians anywhere.

(5:10) So when he came home (5:12) from his National Guard deployment, (5:15) he really found himself (5:17) in a position where his work (5:19) was kind of unfulfilling. (5:20) He was working for a big box retailer. (5:23) He had not yet been able (5:24) to complete school (5:24) because it was interrupted (5:26) by his National Guard activation, (5:28) and he found himself (5:29) kind of in a rut.

(5:31) So he went to a veteran’s job fair, (5:34) and that is where he visited (5:35) a booth owned by Blackwater, (5:37) and they talked about his past history (5:39) and his qualifications, (5:42) and we decided at that point (5:43) that he really wanted (5:44) to go and try it out. (5:46) We had actually talked (5:48) about going back into the Army (5:50) and doing what brings the gold (5:51) or some of the various programs (5:53) to earn the commissioned officer position (5:55) and things like that, (5:56) but the service commitments (5:57) with the military are incredibly long. (6:00) So with the contracts (6:02) with going with Blackwater, (6:03) they were shorter contracts.

(6:05) You worked half as long (6:06) and had twice as long of breaks. (6:09) So that was something (6:09) that was really important to us (6:11) because when he was with the military, (6:13) he was gone six months home (6:14) for two weeks, (6:16) and with Blackwater, (6:17) he was gone 90 and off 30, (6:19) which really gave us time (6:20) to spend together (6:21) as young newlyweds. (6:23) Sure.

(6:23) Well, and you’ve got (6:24) a young family as well. (6:26) I mean, you’ve got (6:27) some young children too. (6:29) Well, since then, (6:30) I have had a daughter.

(6:32) She’s two years old and precious. (6:33) We actually waited (6:34) until the case was dismissed (6:36) the first time to start our family, (6:38) and then it came back. (6:40) So that’s a little bit (6:41) of a bittersweet pill (6:42) that certainly you wouldn’t have (6:43) it any other way (6:44) because she’s precious.

(6:45) Right. (6:47) So now he’s taken this position. (6:51) Now, Eric Brown is here with me, (6:53) and really quick, Eric, (6:55) having been on the ground there, (6:57) one of the things (6:58) that the security forces were facing (7:00) as they would take our ambassadors (7:03) into these particular zones (7:05) for meetings and negotiations (7:07) and different things (7:08) that were taking place, (7:10) there were a lot of factions (7:13) that were not friendly (7:15) to what we were doing (7:16) when we were there.

(7:17) No, not at all. (7:18) And the movie American Sniper, (7:21) the Chris Kyle story, (7:22) depicts it the best. (7:24) You have women carrying munitions, (7:26) handing it to their own children, (7:28) asking them to attack (7:29) American convoy coalition forces, (7:32) ambassador contract forces, (7:33) whatever, you know, (7:33) you have contractors that work (7:34) for Blackwater, Triple Canopy, (7:36) DynCorp, Wolfpack, Custer Battles, (7:38) whoever was in theater (7:39) at the time frame, (7:40) and you’re having to deal (7:41) with normal civilian populaces, (7:43) and you’re not just trying (7:44) to protect the innocents, (7:46) but you’re trying to protect (7:46) the people that you were paid (7:49) and contracted for to guard them.

(7:51) Right. (7:51) Okay, so you’re going into an area (7:53) that it is hostile, (7:55) and you have to have (7:56) positive identification (7:57) before you fire your weapon (7:58) or you know you’re going (7:58) to get in trouble. (7:59) But at the same time, (8:00) you’re being hit from all sides (8:01) and you don’t know (8:02) where it’s coming from, (8:02) and a lot of times (8:03) you see kids with weapons (8:04) or you see women with weapons, (8:06) and it’s not just men.

(8:07) Well, there’s one of the scenes (8:08) in American Sniper (8:09) where he has to make (8:11) that exact decision. (8:13) I was there in 05 during the surge, (8:15) and I tell you, (8:15) the green zone was one (8:17) of the most hostile areas (8:17) because we had ambulances (8:18) loaded down with explosives (8:20) and people were using ambulances (8:21) to bomb voting polls (8:22) and so forth, you know. (8:23) And I was also there in 07 (8:24) when Kristen’s husband was engaged.

(8:28) So Kristen, I just wanted (8:29) my listeners to kind of (8:30) have that background. (8:31) So your husband is now (8:33) in one of those kinds (8:35) of very hostile situations. (8:40) How badly injured? (8:42) I mean, there were several (8:43) that took fatal shots (8:48) during the midst of that.

(8:49) I’m talking about (8:50) Blackwater security individuals. (8:53) How severe was it (8:55) and what did you hear? (8:56) Were you at home (8:58) when you got the phone call (8:59) saying that he’d come under fire? (9:01) How did you hear (9:02) about what happened to him? (9:04) Well, it was really (9:05) kind of an unusual day. (9:07) You know, when you are (9:08) a contractor’s wife, (9:09) you get kind of used (9:10) to the time of day (9:11) that you expect to hear (9:12) from your husband.

(9:13) It just kind of happens (9:14) the same way every day (9:15) a lot of the time. (9:16) And, you know, (9:17) he would contact me (9:18) either through Skype (9:19) or through email. (9:20) And I had gone (9:21) kind of an extensive (9:22) period of time (9:22) without hearing from him, (9:24) and I was very concerned.

(9:27) So I was actually (9:28) driving in the car (9:29) and my mom called me (9:30) and she said, (9:31) baby, I heard on the news (9:32) that something happened (9:33) with Blackwater, (9:35) something pretty serious. (9:36) I don’t know what’s going on. (9:37) Have you heard from PJ? (9:39) And I said, no.

(9:41) So, and I didn’t know (9:42) anything aside from (9:44) the fact that something (9:45) serious had happened, (9:46) that it was all over (9:47) the news, (9:48) that I hadn’t heard (9:50) from my husband. (9:51) So I drive straight (9:52) to my house (9:53) and basically, you know, (9:54) death stare my computer (9:56) into submission (9:56) praying that he would (9:57) pop up, and he did. (9:59) And it was so brief.

(10:01) He just said, (10:02) something has happened. (10:04) It’s very hard (10:05) to explain right now. (10:07) And he said, (10:09) I think there’s going (10:10) to be news coverage about it.

(10:12) Don’t believe anything (10:12) that you hear. (10:14) So I just told him, (10:15) look, I’m behind you (10:16) 110 percent. (10:18) I’m glad you’re safe.

(10:19) Contact me when you can. (10:21) And it really, (10:22) it was really shocking. (10:24) It was really surprising (10:25) to kind of hear (10:25) that he had been engaged (10:26) in something on the news (10:27) but kind of comes (10:28) to you to find out (10:28) that they had been, (10:30) you know, (10:30) through this incredibly (10:32) ridiculous process (10:32) of interviews (10:35) with State Department (10:36) and with various individuals (10:37) and all of these things (10:38) which had prevented him (10:39) from reaching out (10:39) to me sooner.

(10:41) Well, because you had (10:42) all the debriefing programs (10:43) that they had to go through (10:44) as the State Department (10:45) was trying to grapple (10:46) with what was going on (10:47) and what had happened (10:48) and gather witness statements (10:51) and so forth. (10:52) And so there was a narrative (10:54) that initially came out (10:56) with regards to it, (10:57) but then there were (10:58) there was additional background (11:00) that came out. (11:02) You said that there was (11:03) a trial that took place, (11:05) there was investigations (11:06) that took place, (11:07) and the first time around (11:09) it was determined (11:11) that they had not acted (11:13) outside of the boundaries (11:15) of what would be considered (11:17) rules of engagement.

(11:19) When did that trial take place? (11:21) Well, so I want to make sure (11:23) that everybody’s kind of (11:24) got the timeline. (11:26) So after the event happened (11:27) on September 16th, (11:29) three days later, (11:30) the State Department (11:31) made an investigation. (11:33) And based on the evidence (11:35) that they saw (11:36) and the statements that they took (11:38) and the conversations (11:39) that they had, (11:40) they cleared them (11:41) and said, (11:42) okay, you were responding (11:43) to a legitimate insurgency.

(11:46) Your response was reasonable (11:47) based on the facts (11:48) that we have now. (11:50) All is well. (11:51) Then I guess it was (11:53) three weeks later, (11:55) the FBI came in (11:57) and they said, (11:57) no, no, no, no, no.

(11:58) We need to start over. (12:00) We’re going to go out (12:01) to the scene, (12:02) the scene, (12:02) which is a busy marketplace. (12:03) It was never secured.

(12:05) There was never anything done (12:06) with a 25-vehicle convoy (12:09) because it was that dangerous (12:10) to conduct a, (12:11) you know, quote, unquote, (12:12) I’m using my fingers here, (12:13) investigation (12:15) and talk to the Iraqi witnesses. (12:18) And really we learned (12:20) at that point (12:21) that the whole purpose (12:22) of their expedition there (12:24) was to try to secure (12:25) a conviction. (12:27) Because I think that one thing (12:28) that I’m sure that, you know, (12:30) Eric can let you know about (12:32) is when a situation like, (12:35) you know, (12:35) an enemy firing situation (12:37) took place, (12:37) they would clear out guns, (12:39) clear out their, you know, (12:40) clear out the insurgents, (12:41) clear out their casings.

(12:43) They would do anything they could (12:44) to make it look like (12:46) they had just, you know, (12:47) opened fire for no reason. (12:48) They always minimized their role (12:50) in any conflict (12:51) as much as they possibly could. (12:53) So three weeks later, (12:54) you can imagine (12:55) that at that point, (12:57) a lot of the evidence (12:59) had been removed, (13:01) never to be found again.

(13:03) Well, I mean, (13:04) I was a private investigator. (13:06) I have a little bit of background (13:08) in some of this. (13:10) And one of the things (13:11) that is critical (13:12) to the investigation (13:14) is to be able to secure the area (13:17) where the event has taken place, (13:19) keep foot traffic out, (13:21) and make sure that everything (13:22) that is or that was there (13:26) has remained there.

(13:28) That is truly the only way (13:30) that you can conduct (13:31) a clean investigation (13:32) is to be able to secure the area (13:34) where the event took place. (13:36) It sounds to me like (13:37) three weeks after the fact, (13:38) that’s not possible. (13:40) But I’m curious, (13:41) if anybody asks this question, (13:42) the Federal Bureau of Investigation (13:44) predominantly is a domestic organization.

(13:48) Their primary responsibility (13:50) is domestic investigations, (13:52) not foreign investigations per se. (13:56) It’s interesting to me (13:57) that they would have become involved (13:59) in trying to carry this out. (14:01) Are there jealousies, do you think, (14:04) and maybe somebody else in this room (14:05) can answer that, (14:06) that might exist between the FBI (14:08) and private security forces, (14:11) feeling as though, you know, (14:13) the private security forces (14:14) are somehow drifting (14:17) into their field of expertise? (14:20) I’m just wondering (14:21) if there’s professional, (14:23) a little bit of, (14:25) eh, what do you guys, (14:26) why are they using you? (14:28) Why don’t they use our forces? (14:29) Why are we contracting this out? (14:32) Just from my perspective (14:34) and kind of what I understand to date (14:36) is really that the purpose (14:38) of the investigation (14:39) was to result in a trial (14:42) and thusly a conviction.

(14:43) And when the Department of State (14:44) performed their business-as-usual (14:46) investigation of the matter (14:47) and cleared them, (14:49) it was like, well, (14:50) we can’t really get (14:50) the Department of State (14:51) to look at it again, (14:52) so now we’ve got to send (14:53) the FBI to do it. (14:55) So I think it was really more like, (14:56) you know, (14:57) we only have so many branches (14:58) of our government (14:59) that perform that type of work, (15:01) and the Department of State (15:02) already said it was good to go, (15:03) so they had to find somebody else. (15:05) Now, Micah has just joined us.

(15:07) Micah, welcome. (15:08) Thank you, Pastor. (15:09) Good to be with you again.

(15:10) It’s good to have you back with us. (15:12) And, of course, Micah, (15:13) you worked as a Blackwater contractor (15:18) in the theater and in the field (15:20) and now were you in theater (15:22) at the time that Paul (15:24) and that crew were there? (15:27) I had just left theater (15:28) when Paul and that crew were there. (15:29) I was on a separate contract, (15:31) but still within the company.

(15:32) First of all, good morning, Kristen. (15:34) Sorry I’m late. (15:34) I don’t know if she can hear you (15:36) off of that microphone, (15:37) to be honest with you.

(15:38) Can you hear Micah at all? (15:40) Just a little bit, but we’re good. (15:41) Okay, all right, very good. (15:44) So now we have this situation.

(15:47) Now the FBI is investigating (15:49) after having been cleared (15:50) by the State Department. (15:53) How far out from the events (15:55) did this take place now? (15:57) About six months, did you say? (15:58) No, three weeks, you said. (16:01) Yeah, three weeks after the fact (16:02) the FBI showed up.

(16:03) And knowing that the scene (16:05) had been modified by the Iraqi police (16:08) and the Iraqi people who were there, (16:10) knowing that it had not been secured, (16:13) knowing what they knew about (16:14) the modus operandi (16:17) of the Iraqi nationals (16:18) as well as the insurgency (16:20) and the corruption of their police force, (16:22) means they had reports, (16:25) tons of reports (16:26) on the corruption (16:28) happening in the police force. (16:29) And knowing all of that, (16:31) they still treated the crime scene (16:34) as an active crime scene (16:35) that they could withdraw evidence from, (16:38) as well as treat Iraqi testimony (16:41) as credible. (16:43) So they go and do all of this, (16:45) and in addition to this, (16:46) they really landed themselves (16:47) in a lot of trouble (16:48) because they took the statements (16:50) that were provided (16:51) to the State Department.

(16:53) Those are like Garrity statements, (16:54) like Leo Garrity statements. (16:56) You’re not Mirandized. (16:57) It’s a suit report.

(16:58) You have to provide it. (16:59) It’s an obligation of your job. (17:01) And they are not to be used (17:02) in any type of criminal proceeding (17:04) because you have not been Mirandized.

(17:06) And they took those. (17:07) They read them. (17:08) They allowed people to look at them.

(17:12) They performed their investigation (17:15) through the lens of (17:16) what they learned in these statements (17:18) that were entirely impermissible. (17:21) So that is what really led to (17:23) the length of time that elapsed (17:25) between when the original charges were filed (17:28) and the time when it was originally dismissed. (17:31) We had what were called (17:32) Castigar hearings, (17:34) I mean months of Castigar hearings, (17:35) which were basically legal grappling (17:37) over the fact that (17:39) those statements were not permissible (17:41) to be used (17:42) and that they had tainted (17:43) the entire investigation (17:44) that was performed (17:45) by the original prosecuting team.

(17:49) So Judge Verbina, (17:50) the U.S., I believe, district court judge, (17:52) who listened to the case the first time, (17:55) he published a scathing opinion (17:57) and dismayed the entire case (17:59) and said, look, (18:00) you trampled their constitutional rights (18:02) by the way you performed this investigation. (18:05) And they really had to, right, (18:06) because they didn’t have enough evidence. (18:08) They didn’t have enough anything, really, (18:11) to create a case.

(18:13) So they had done all of these improper things (18:16) and he dismissed the case entirely. (18:18) And that was December 31st of, (18:21) I want to say like 2010 or 2011. (18:24) Honestly, after more than seven years, (18:26) it’s a little blurry.

(18:28) But it was years later (18:29) that they finally went ahead (18:31) and dismissed the charges against us. (18:33) And we really thought that, you know, (18:35) that likely the government (18:36) would take it to appeal, (18:37) it would get quashed on appeal, (18:39) and it would just die (18:40) kind of a quiet death somewhere (18:43) as the issue had, we thought, (18:47) you know, really been more about (18:48) publicity and politics. (18:50) And that many years down the road, (18:52) we were really thinking at that point (18:53) that it was just going to, you know, (18:55) kind of quietly go away (18:57) because it didn’t, you know, (18:58) there wasn’t like the public attention on it (19:00) that there was prior.

(19:01) But unfortunately, that was not the case. (19:04) All right, we’re going to take a quick break, folks. (19:05) When we come back, (19:06) we’ve only got about four or five minutes left.

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(22:16) And my guest this morning is… (22:20) Oh, here we go. (22:21) As a matter of fact, (22:22) Paul would have loved to have come in. (22:23) I’ve got to share this.

(22:24) Paul just sent me a message over. (22:27) He said, (22:27) Diplomatic security at that embassy (22:29) and the FBI hated each other. (22:31) That is correct.

(22:33) Yeah, so there was conflict. (22:36) Folks, I bring that up (22:38) because we have to understand (22:40) if you’ve got an investigative force (22:42) that has animosity (22:44) towards the other side (22:47) and is essentially looking for a way (22:50) to take them out, (22:53) to make them look bad, (22:55) to put them out of business, (22:59) it’s not the kind of situation (23:01) that is going to lead to (23:03) an objective investigation. (23:06) It’s the reason why judges (23:07) have to recuse themselves (23:10) from particular cases (23:11) when they have a vested interest (23:13) in what’s happening.

(23:14) And the FBI seemed to feel (23:15) that they had a vested interest (23:16) in what was taking place (23:18) with regards to this. (23:19) So thank you, Mr. Janicek, (23:21) for your input on that. (23:22) We’ll get you on here just shortly, Paul.

(23:25) I think we’re going to go (23:25) just a couple minutes over. (23:27) So bear with me, my brother. (23:29) So, Kristen, this situation now, (23:32) we’re into roughly 2010.

(23:34) I’ve had J. Christian Adams (23:36) on the program (23:37) who was a part of (23:38) Holder’s Department of Justice (23:41) for a year, (23:42) could only stand one year (23:44) with that guy, (23:45) and then basically wrote (23:47) the expose, Injustice. (23:50) There was a huge shift (23:52) as it related to how (23:55) the regime, (23:58) the new government regime, (24:00) treated your husband (24:02) and all of those (24:03) that had been accused (24:05) when there was a change of guard (24:07) in Washington. (24:08) Am I off by saying that, (24:10) or is that an accurate statement, (24:11) and did you all sense that? (24:13) You know, I don’t know (24:15) that we necessarily at the time (24:17) sensed the shift.

(24:19) I think that we had always expected (24:21) that, okay, the goal of this (24:24) is to make it to trial. (24:26) Because if you kind of look (24:27) at the timing (24:28) of when it all happened, (24:29) they were talking actively (24:30) about the Status of Forces Agreement, (24:32) and the Iraqi government (24:33) was saying, (24:34) we want the right (24:35) to prosecute American citizens (24:37) in our courts under Sharia law (24:39) because it undermines (24:41) our sovereignty (24:42) that you won’t let us (24:44) prosecute crimes (24:45) in our own country. (24:46) The United States said, (24:47) no, no, no, no, no, no, no, (24:48) we’re not going to do that, (24:49) but we will prove to you (24:53) that we have the jurisdiction (24:54) to do this, (24:55) we will bring these individuals (24:56) to trial, (24:57) they receive a trial (24:58) in the United States.

(25:00) So we had really gotten (25:01) the impression (25:01) from the beginning (25:02) that the goal was (25:03) to simply bring us (25:04) to trial in the United States, (25:06) and that we would receive (25:07) a fair trial (25:07) when all the information (25:09) was looked at, (25:10) when everything was provided, (25:12) that, you know, rightly, (25:14) they would be let go. (25:15) And the shift that we saw (25:16) when the Obama administration (25:18) come in was that (25:19) it was no longer about a trial, (25:21) it was about a conviction. (25:23) Joseph Biden went over (25:25) to that country (25:26) after the case was dismissed (25:27) and said, (25:28) we will bring these people (25:30) to justice.

(25:31) Told them that (25:32) on a public speaking tour. (25:34) So, and he, (25:35) that I can’t remember (25:36) the way he worded it, (25:37) but it was very clear (25:38) that it wasn’t like, (25:39) we’re going to bring them to trial, (25:41) we’ll ensure that, you know, (25:42) that they are going to receive (25:43) a fair trial. (25:44) It was, (25:44) we’re going to ensure (25:46) that these people (25:47) pay for what they did to you.

(25:48) It was never about the truth. (25:50) And so we really saw that (25:52) in all of the underhanded (25:53) and dirty things (25:54) that the DOJ did (25:55) in order to secure the conviction, (25:57) like using the legal framework (25:58) of aiding and abetting. (26:00) Essentially, they said to the jury, (26:02) you know, (26:02) we don’t have to show you (26:04) what any of these individuals did.

(26:06) As a matter of fact, (26:07) there was no physical evidence (26:09) that any of the four men on trial (26:11) had actually hurt or injured (26:13) or killed anybody that day. (26:15) There was not a single bullet (26:16) that matched that (26:17) from a vehicle (26:18) or from a, you know, (26:19) alleged victim (26:20) that tied back (26:21) to any of their weapons. (26:22) But what they said to the jury is, (26:24) we don’t need to prove to you (26:26) what these individuals did.

(26:28) All you have to decide (26:30) is that someone committed a crime here, (26:32) whether they are, you know, (26:34) part of this defendant group or not, (26:38) and that these defendants participated. (26:40) And effectively, (26:42) they took away (26:42) their right to self-defense. (26:44) Because during the course (26:45) of this seven years, (26:46) there is a guy that came forward (26:48) and basically said, (26:49) I lost it.

(26:50) I sprayed the south of the square (26:52) with bullets. (26:53) And by saying that, (26:55) it essentially, (26:56) it effectively negated (26:58) the fact that they were (26:59) under legitimate fire. (27:01) And his teammates responded (27:02) to legitimate threats.

(27:04) But they said basically, (27:04) you know, (27:05) sorry, you know, (27:06) this guy committed a crime. (27:07) If these men participated (27:09) by firing their weapon, (27:12) essentially they are culpable (27:13) of any crime (27:14) that was committed that day. (27:15) And because of all the scene cleansing (27:17) and things that I alluded to you before, (27:19) every casualty that day (27:21) was treated as a victim.

(27:23) Well, and unfortunately, (27:25) in these kinds of events, (27:26) we’ve seen this happen. (27:28) This isn’t the first time (27:29) that under combat duress, (27:31) we’ve seen someone (27:33) who has come forward (27:34) after the fact, (27:35) after a firefight, (27:36) and said, (27:37) oh my gosh, (27:38) I must have done this, (27:40) you know, (27:40) it’s the only way (27:41) that I can live with it (27:42) is to believe that (27:43) I must have done something wrong, (27:45) and stepped forward (27:47) and said something (27:48) that in reality (27:50) is not bearing in truth, (27:52) but it’s simply bearing (27:54) in a sense of (27:55) trying to alleviate (27:56) the guilt that comes, (27:58) and it’s part of (27:58) post-traumatic stress syndrome. (28:00) I mean, it’s part of the issue.

(28:01) Am I off base, guys, (28:02) in saying that? (28:04) That those kinds of things (28:06) sometimes are said (28:07) in an effort (28:08) to try to alleviate feelings (28:11) associated with an event? (28:13) It happens. (28:13) It’s part of the grieving process. (28:16) But just like you said, (28:18) sometimes, you know, (28:19) that’s how that person (28:20) tries to put the picture (28:23) back together (28:23) when in fact, (28:26) you know, (28:26) whenever there is (28:27) a hostile action (28:29) taken against you, (28:30) sometimes people can’t put (28:31) the correct sequencing (28:33) of the event back together.

(28:35) Well, and I’m not going to try (28:38) and make excuses out of this, (28:39) but let’s also bear in mind (28:42) that as Americans, (28:44) we carry a different level (28:47) of conscience (28:48) when we engage. (28:51) That’s just part of our makeup. (28:54) And it’s something that’s (28:55) very much the reason why (28:57) I believe that we honor (28:58) our military veterans (28:59) the way that we do, (29:01) is that our military veterans (29:03) carry that sense of conscience (29:05) into a battle.

(29:06) And Eric, you and I (29:07) have talked about this (29:08) a number of times (29:09) in me shifting some of, (29:11) you know, you’ll make a statement (29:12) and I’ll say, (29:13) but there’s more (29:14) to that statement. (29:15) Let’s get what’s behind (29:17) that statement. (29:17) You know what I’m saying? (29:18) Oh, absolutely.

(29:19) You know, which is that (29:20) there’s a conscience (29:23) that exists behind that (29:26) that I think is significant (29:27) to understand. (29:28) We just had a little kickback (29:29) because of Kristen’s phone. (29:30) Oh, okay.

(29:30) But there’s a conscience (29:32) that exists. (29:33) And Kristen, (29:34) we’re about out of time here, (29:35) but I really, (29:36) I so appreciate you coming on (29:38) and giving us this glimpse (29:40) at what’s happened. (29:41) We’re not done (29:42) covering this subject.

(29:44) As I mentioned to you, (29:46) I’ll be meeting with you (29:47) and several others tomorrow (29:49) down in San Antonio, (29:50) and I’m looking forward to that (29:51) because people need to understand (29:53) what’s happening. (29:54) And folks, here’s the thing. (29:56) Here’s the real issue (29:58) that exists with regards to this.

(30:00) The purpose is to vilify (30:02) the United States of America. (30:04) The purpose is to vilify (30:06) all military action (30:08) taken by this nation (30:11) and to bring us under (30:13) the United Nations (30:14) to bring us into (30:16) international force law (30:18) so that they can vilify (30:21) the United States of America. (30:23) This is the radical change (30:25) that this regime (30:27) and this delusional individual (30:30) sitting in the White House (30:32) is trying to perpetrate (30:33) upon America (30:34) in destroying our Constitution, (30:37) our freedoms, (30:38) and our rights.

(30:39) And you and I (30:40) are God’s chosen generation (30:43) to stop it, (30:44) and it has to stop now. (30:45) We’re going to take a break (30:46) when I come back. (30:47) Paul Janicek joins us.

(30:48) Kristen, again, (30:49) thank you for being here. (30:50) God bless you. (30:51) God bless your husband.

(30:52) We’ll be praying (30:52) for all of this situation, (30:54) and I will see you (30:55) very, very soon. (30:57) We’ll be back, folks, (30:59) right after this brief break. (31:05) The 2013 tax season (31:07) has come to a close, (31:07) but it is not too early (31:08) to think about 2014, (31:10) and Gregory R. Seibert, (31:11) CPA, is the answer.

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(33:14) Pastor Greg. (33:15) And don’t forget, (33:16) you can get more (33:17) Chosen Generation (33:18) at PastorGregYoung.org. (33:25) Alright, okay folks, (33:27) welcome back to (33:28) Chosen Generation (33:29) where no topic’s (33:29) off limits and (33:30) everything’s filtered (33:31) through biblical glasses. (33:32) I’m your host, (33:33) Pastor Greg, (33:34) and I have with me, (33:37) Paul Janicek joins us (33:39) from the front row (33:42) of the United States.

(33:44) And I also have (33:45) Eric Brown with (33:47) Texan Defense Group (33:48) is in studio with me (33:49) and Michael Hoffman (33:52) and he is with (33:53) Global Protection Group. (33:58) Correct. (33:58) So, yeah, you’ve got (33:59) to be right on these (34:00) mics.

(34:01) Is this a little better? (34:02) Oh yeah. (34:02) Is that better for you? (34:04) Because I can turn, (34:04) now I can turn you (34:05) up there. (34:05) How’s that? (34:06) A little bit better.

(34:07) Is that better? (34:08) I can go a little. (34:09) That’s very loud. (34:10) Oh, wait, wait, (34:10) sorry, wrong one.

(34:11) That’s okay. (34:11) There we go. (34:12) Hey, there we go.

(34:14) Wrong switch. (34:14) All right. (34:15) That’s all right.

(34:16) I’m turning up (34:17) Eric’s headphones (34:18) and Mike’s going, (34:20) yeah, it sounds a little (34:20) better to me. (34:21) It’s because he can hear (34:24) through Eric’s headphones. (34:25) It’s like gunfire (34:26) going off next to my head.

(34:29) All right. (34:30) Very good. (34:30) Well, Paul, I appreciate (34:32) that you were tuned in (34:34) to, you know, (34:35) to the interview (34:35) with Kristen (34:36) and the things (34:37) that we were covering.

(34:38) You were at that embassy. (34:40) Is that, is that (34:41) how you were at (34:41) what I understand (34:43) earlier that year? (34:44) I was. (34:45) I was senior staff (34:46) to the ambassador.

(34:47) I knew the, (34:47) I knew the senior echelons (34:50) of the Blackwater folks there (34:51) as well as the RSO (34:53) was, it was sort of (34:54) my crying companion (34:55) any time I had (34:56) a security problem. (34:58) And I can tell you (35:00) there was a great deal (35:01) of friction (35:01) between the various (35:02) alphabet soup (35:03) of federal law enforcement (35:04) agencies (35:04) that were out there. (35:06) And, but I do sense (35:08) that there was something (35:09) a little more, (35:10) a little more political (35:11) about that.

(35:15) Well, it’s, you know, (35:18) fortunately, (35:19) we have a legal system (35:20) that is going to allow (35:23) for there to be (35:24) some additional (35:24) due process. (35:26) And, and so they will (35:27) have an opportunity (35:28) to come forward (35:30) with, with some appeal (35:31) with regards to this. (35:33) Were there any insights (35:35) or thoughts (35:35) that you wanted to share? (35:36) I mean, I think (35:36) that’s significant.

(35:37) What he just shared (35:38) right there, Micah, (35:39) is, is, you know, (35:41) that there was (35:41) this animosity. (35:42) Absolutely there was. (35:43) I mean, it was permeable, (35:45) not just through the, (35:46) not, not just through (35:47) the, the senior leadership (35:48) there on the ground, (35:49) but it also trickled down (35:51) into the, into the boots (35:52) as well.

(35:53) And, and that would have (35:55) a significant impact then (35:56) on, on everything (35:58) that was taking place. (36:00) Absolutely. (36:00) It sure would.

(36:02) The other part to this (36:03) that Kristen mentioned (36:04) that I, that I thought (36:05) was significant (36:05) to understand (36:06) was the corruption (36:08) that existed (36:09) and still exists. (36:10) I mean, (36:11) the corruption (36:11) this is, this is not (36:13) a done thing, (36:14) but that specifically existed (36:16) with regards to (36:18) where loyalties lied, (36:20) even within the, (36:21) the, the on the ground (36:23) Iraqi forces. (36:24) So, you know, (36:26) your groups, (36:27) the security groups (36:28) would have arrangements.

(36:30) The state department (36:30) would set up meetings (36:31) and so on and so forth. (36:33) But there was never (36:34) any certainty (36:36) that the opposing sides, (36:40) you know, (36:40) didn’t know (36:41) exactly what was coming, (36:43) how many men, (36:44) how many cars, (36:45) how many vehicles, (36:46) who was in those cars, (36:47) all that information. (36:48) And that was done on purpose.

(36:49) Don’t get me wrong. (36:50) That was done on purpose. (36:52) We, we did not, (36:54) we purposely did not inform them (36:56) until the, (36:58) until the moment decided (36:59) that they needed to know (37:00) what was, (37:01) what was going to be (37:02) coming their way (37:02) just for operational (37:03) security purposes.

(37:04) Well, but when I’m, (37:05) when I’m referring to is, (37:07) is that even in the midst (37:08) as, as tight-lipped (37:09) as one can be, (37:11) when, when, (37:12) there’s still the element (37:13) of the possibility (37:14) that the enemy (37:15) is going to be tipped (37:16) if you, if you, (37:18) if you have (37:18) that many individuals (37:20) that you’re not sure (37:21) who you can trust (37:23) in that circle. (37:25) Absolutely correct. (37:26) And that goes all the way (37:27) to very senior members (37:29) of the Iraqi government.

(37:30) You know, the, (37:31) the, the diplomats (37:32) that we were protecting. (37:33) For example, (37:34) we had one situation (37:35) where we were going (37:36) to be meeting (37:36) a very high level diplomat (37:38) from, from the Iraqi government (37:39) and we were going to meet them (37:41) at a particular meeting (37:41) when we went to go advance (37:43) that location, (37:44) the security team (37:46) for that individual said, (37:47) well, we’re going to (37:47) change things up. (37:48) We’re going to go over here (37:49) to this location.

(37:50) That information (37:51) was never passed on (37:52) to our leadership (37:53) and the decision (37:54) was made on the ground. (37:56) Yes, go ahead (37:56) and go with them (37:56) and find out where (37:57) things are going to go. (37:58) It was that day (37:59) that I got blown up (38:00) for the first time (38:01) as we were leaving (38:02) that location (38:03) and we fully believed (38:04) that it was because (38:05) there was a, (38:06) a member within (38:07) either that, (38:08) that senior Iraqi officials (38:11) group, (38:12) circle of, (38:12) circle of influence (38:14) that knew (38:15) that we were going (38:16) to be at a particular place (38:17) at a particular time.

(38:18) Well, and, and, (38:19) and Paul, (38:20) coming back (38:21) to the embassy side (38:22) to that, (38:23) you know, (38:24) you mentioned, (38:24) you know, (38:25) going to the RSO (38:26) with particular (38:28) security concerns. (38:29) Were those not (38:30) some of the concerns (38:31) that you dealt with (38:33) as, as you looked (38:34) at different operations (38:35) and, and setting up (38:36) different meetings (38:37) and so on and so forth (38:38) that there was always (38:39) the potential (38:40) that as soon as (38:41) you set the meeting (38:42) that someone (38:43) within that loop (38:44) might release information (38:47) that could put lives (38:48) at risk? (38:49) It happened (38:50) my very first move (38:51) outside the wire. (38:52) We were visiting a, (38:53) we were visiting a school (38:54) and I took a, (38:56) you know, (38:56) they call them PSDs.

(38:58) We took a PSD (38:58) to this school (39:00) and a number (39:02) of warning signs (39:03) began tripping (39:04) into place (39:05) pretty quickly. (39:06) We had our meeting (39:06) and we took a tour (39:07) of the school (39:08) which was (39:09) in the country (39:09) kind of shape (39:09) you would imagine (39:10) for an Iraqi school (39:12) and the director general (39:13) of the school system (39:14) for the province (39:15) was supposed to be there. (39:16) No show.

(39:17) First warning. (39:18) Dog handling team (39:19) was late getting there (39:22) and, and the dog (39:25) which was one (39:25) of the most reliable (39:26) dogs that the company had (39:27) went right up (39:28) to a sand pile (39:29) right outside the gate (39:30) and squatted down (39:31) which is the telltale sign (39:32) there is an explosive (39:33) in here. (39:35) The next telltale sign (39:36) was the kids (39:37) were really whipped off (39:38) flipping us off (39:39) yelling, (39:40) they clearly (39:41) were really excited (39:42) that we were there (39:42) but were really angry (39:43) with us.

(39:44) And the final (39:45) was a very good friend (39:47) of mine (39:47) who was a private (39:48) security operator (39:49) to this day (39:49) was on the roof (39:51) with an M4 (39:51) and he was looking (39:52) through the scope (39:54) and he said (39:54) there’s a guy (39:55) standing there (39:55) watching the gate (39:56) stroking the keypad (39:57) of his phone. (39:58) At that point (39:59) my PSD (40:01) my designated agent (40:03) grabbed me and said (40:04) sir we got to go (40:04) right now. (40:06) And I think (40:07) I think one of the things (40:07) if I could return it (40:08) to the main point (40:09) about Nasour Square (40:10) about private security (40:12) that the other side (40:14) of the debate (40:14) as to their place (40:16) and their relevance (40:16) doesn’t understand (40:17) is these are not (40:19) mercenaries.

(40:19) These guys (40:20) are not paid (40:22) to go out (40:22) and fight people. (40:23) They are completely (40:24) a defensive element. (40:26) And people (40:27) just because (40:28) they see the Oakleys (40:29) and the 511 trousers (40:30) and the body armor (40:31) and the weapons (40:31) they automatically (40:32) jump to the conclusion (40:34) this is an offensive force.

(40:35) They’re not. (40:35) They’re there (40:36) to get you out (40:37) and get away (40:38) as quickly as possible. (40:39) And for some guys (40:40) I’m not (40:41) laying this on (40:42) anybody in particular (40:43) for some guys (40:44) it’s kind of (40:45) a tough mentality (40:46) to get yourself into (40:47) because (40:49) as military people (40:50) and having come (40:51) from military pedigrees (40:52) you’re into that (40:53) somebody’s shooting at us (40:54) we’re going to shoot back.

(40:55) And sometimes (40:55) unfortunately (40:56) it does become (40:57) necessarily (40:57) like in this case. (40:58) Yeah because (40:59) contractors (41:00) they’re paid bodyguards. (41:02) They’re there to (41:02) protect the asset (41:03) at all costs.

(41:04) Me speaking from (41:05) a combat arms perspective (41:07) and a special operations background (41:08) we are the aggressors. (41:09) We are the offensive (41:10) fighting force. (41:10) We are there (41:11) to go out there (41:11) find the enemy (41:12) and destroy the enemy (41:13) in full contact.

(41:14) These guys are there (41:15) to egress (41:16) get out of there (41:16) and protect their asset (41:17) at all costs. (41:18) Just like Paul said (41:19) they are defensive (41:20) in nature (41:21) and that is their (41:22) primary mission. (41:23) They are not (41:24) intended to aggress.

(41:26) And if we have to (41:26) engage our weapons (41:28) in order to break contact (41:29) that is something (41:30) that we have to do (41:31) in order to make (41:32) a doorway for us (41:33) to go through. (41:35) That’s something (41:35) that we do (41:35) but again (41:36) the intent (41:37) and the purpose (41:37) for it is not (41:38) to engage the enemy (41:39) but more to (41:41) make a (41:42) evacuation (41:43) method (41:44) a way for us (41:45) to evacuate (41:45) from the area. (41:46) Well and what I hope (41:47) you know folks at home (41:48) what I hope (41:49) that you can appreciate (41:50) about the conversation (41:51) we’re having (41:52) in this segment (41:53) and we’re going to (41:54) shift here in a minute (41:54) over because I do want (41:55) to talk with you Paul (41:56) about some of the (41:57) information you have (41:58) on the assassination (41:58) that took place (42:00) in Argentina.

(42:01) And it’s significant (42:02) because it speaks to (42:04) we have a threat (42:06) not just from Sunnis (42:07) as we relate to (42:08) Al-Qaeda and ISIS (42:09) but we have a Shiite (42:13) issue as well (42:14) with Iran (42:15) and that’s (42:15) significant to understand (42:16) especially in light (42:17) of what this regime (42:18) is trying to do (42:19) to normalize (42:20) relationships (42:21) with a sworn (42:22) enemy of this nation. (42:23) But you’re getting (42:25) two different (42:27) views on (42:28) and what I mean (42:29) by that is (42:30) Micah was a part (42:31) of security forces (42:32) actually three. (42:33) Eric was a part (42:34) of combat.

(42:35) Paul was one (42:37) of the assets (42:38) that was being (42:39) protected by (42:42) Micah’s security (42:43) organization (42:44) as well as having (42:45) been in combat (42:46) himself. (42:47) So I think you’re (42:48) getting a really (42:48) well-rounded (42:49) understanding (42:50) of what these (42:52) individuals faced (42:53) when they faced (42:55) the incident (42:58) attack that took (42:59) place that has (43:01) been characterized (43:02) as something (43:03) other than (43:04) and these (43:05) individuals (43:05) characterized as (43:06) being mercenaries (43:09) when in fact (43:10) as Paul clearly (43:10) said that’s not (43:11) their role. (43:13) Have I misstated (43:14) any of that as (43:14) we kind of wrap (43:16) that part up? (43:17) Not at all.

(43:18) Paul anything (43:19) else you’d like (43:19) to add before we (43:20) shift over to (43:21) Argentina? (43:21) We’ll take a quick (43:22) break and come (43:22) back and do that. (43:24) The only thing I (43:25) would add is that (43:25) there was quite a (43:27) dilemma that the (43:27) private security guys (43:28) faced that I had (43:30) also seen and that (43:30) is the corruption (43:31) and the police comes (43:32) out in one other (43:32) way and that is (43:33) they will sell (43:35) uniforms and weapons (43:36) to insurgents. (43:37) And so when you (43:38) come up upon, (43:39) when you’re in a (43:40) private security (43:40) detail and you (43:41) come up upon a (43:42) barricade you (43:43) don’t know if (43:43) they’re legitimate (43:44) police or if (43:45) they’re militiamen (43:46) are you going to (43:47) be engaged or are (43:48) they going to (43:48) shake you down for (43:49) money or are they (43:49) just going to let (43:50) you through? (43:51) Wow.

(43:51) And just topping on (43:53) what happened to (43:53) Blackwater, what’s (43:54) happened to Paul with (43:55) him on his own (43:55) security details, (43:56) those kind of deviant (43:57) attacks where they (43:59) mislead you and guide (44:00) you to another (44:00) location, that doesn’t (44:01) just happen to (44:02) security force details (44:02) and ambassadors and (44:03) A’s and so forth, (44:04) that happens to (44:05) coalition forces all (44:06) the time. (44:07) Working from a (44:07) human intelligence (44:08) perspective to a (44:10) tactical infantry on (44:11) the ground boots (44:12) perspective, they do (44:12) that to us all the (44:13) time. (44:14) They will shift the (44:14) time and location to (44:15) meet their needs so (44:16) they can set us up (44:16) for an attack.

(44:17) It’s basically setting (44:18) us up for failure. (44:18) What they don’t realize (44:19) is military coalition (44:21) forces are trained to (44:21) fight and fight through (44:22) the objective because (44:22) we run towards the (44:23) gunfire and these (44:24) protective details, (44:25) they break contact (44:27) to save their assets. (44:28) Their job is to move (44:29) in a different direction.

(44:31) Gentlemen, I (44:31) appreciate all that. (44:32) You guys are welcome (44:33) to stick around if you (44:33) like. (44:34) We’re going to talk (44:34) about the Argentina (44:35) thing but we’ll do (44:36) that in a minute.

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(46:43) Is that good? (46:43) All right. (46:44) Excellent. (46:45) And again, folks, (46:46) Paul, thank you so much (46:46) Paul Janicek joins me, (46:48) a former aide to John (46:50) Bolton, but just a (46:52) variety of background (46:54) and experience.

(46:55) And I love to have Paul (46:56) on because he has a real (46:57) good pull speed on what’s (46:58) happening around the (47:00) world and how it impacts (47:02) us here. (47:03) Eric Brown with Texan (47:05) Defense Group and also (47:07) Michael Hovelman with (47:08) Global Security. (47:10) Yes.

(47:10) And so, Paul, you know, (47:13) this situation that has (47:15) taken place in our (47:18) We have a prosecutor who (47:20) was about to give (47:21) testimony connecting. (47:22) This is a 1984 bombing. (47:26) Is that correct? (47:27) 1994.

(47:28) 1994. (47:28) Okay. (47:29) Well, good.

(47:30) It’s a little sooner. (47:32) 1994 bombing of a, it was (47:36) a Jewish temple, correct? (47:38) It was a Jewish community (47:39) center. (47:40) Okay.

(47:41) And boy, I’m striking out (47:44) here with my memory not (47:46) remember these facts, but (47:48) I’m a little rusty this (47:49) morning, I guess. (47:50) At least you know what (47:51) happened. (47:52) I’m watching the news and (47:53) I’m chagrined as to what (47:54) little coverage this is (47:55) getting.

(47:56) Well, and, and he was about (47:59) to give testimony to the (48:01) connection between Iran’s (48:04) involvement in this, in this (48:06) bombing and the president (48:09) of Argentina. (48:12) Tell us a little bit about (48:13) the background and, and why (48:15) is this a significant (48:16) event that we, that we need (48:19) to be giving some attention (48:19) to? (48:21) It’s significant. (48:22) I’ll start with that piece (48:23) first, if you don’t mind.

(48:24) It’s significant because (48:25) this is more proof that, uh, (48:27) in my opinion, anyway, that (48:29) the Iranians are acting on (48:31) their interest on the world (48:31) stage and doing so in a much (48:34) more assertive way than what (48:35) we have seen in recent years. (48:37) Uh, the, uh, the, the (48:40) organization that was, that (48:42) was bombed in 1994 was the (48:44) Argentina-Israelite Mutual (48:46) Association. (48:47) And it was basically a (48:48) community center that was (48:49) there to, uh, assist (48:51) Argentine Jews.

(48:52) Uh, there’s, uh, a wide (48:54) perception in, uh, Latin (48:57) America watchers that of all (48:58) the countries in Latin (48:59) America, Argentina has the (49:01) strongest anti-Semitic (49:02) strain. (49:03) Uh, and I don’t know how (49:05) deep that is. (49:06) I’ve never been to Argentina, (49:07) whether, what the factual (49:08) basis for it is, but you can (49:10) get into the Nazi hunters (49:11) spending a lot of time down (49:12) there looking for former (49:14) Third Reich members.

(49:15) Uh, neither here in Los (49:16) Angeles, nor there. (49:17) Hezbollah, um, had (49:19) penetrated Argentina shortly (49:20) after the, uh, the Iranians (49:22) came to power. (49:23) Uh, they started showing up (49:25) around 1981, 1982.

(49:27) Uh, and to this day, there (49:28) is an infestation problem of (49:30) Hezbollah and Iranian agents, (49:32) uh, throughout the southern (49:33) cone of Latin America, uh, (49:35) Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia, (49:38) Brazil, Peru, Argentina. (49:41) Uh, it used to be confined (49:42) to an area called the (49:43) Tri-Border Region, but it (49:44) has since grown. (49:45) And of course, the (49:46) power of Hugo Chavez in (49:48) Venezuela, uh, they, they (49:50) started moving into there as (49:51) well.

(49:52) The, the fact of the matter (49:54) is Mr. Nisman was brought in (49:56) to be a public prosecutor on (49:58) the bombing. (49:59) And what he started (50:00) determining was that when (50:02) Ms. Kirchner became president, (50:05) uh, Argentina, she quickly (50:07) crashed Argentina’s economy. (50:09) And Argentina needed, uh, (50:11) finished petroleum products, (50:13) which they had the capacity (50:14) to make themselves, but they (50:15) needed the oil to get (50:16) They needed a cut on the (50:17) price because they were (50:18) poor, but they had an (50:20) abundance of wheat.

(50:21) And so it appears that they (50:22) cut a deal with the Iranians (50:24) to do an off-market trade, (50:26) uh, oil for wheat. (50:27) Uh, everybody wins because (50:29) by the time they were doing (50:31) it, which was in the early (50:32) 2000s, they were, the, the, (50:34) the Iranian economy was (50:35) really starting to feel the (50:36) bite of sanctions. (50:37) Uh, and so they concluded (50:39) this agreement, but what I (50:41) found fascinating, the more (50:42) I talked with, uh, friends (50:43) who are investigative (50:44) journalists, was that the (50:46) argument that was made (50:52) that the deal could go (50:58) through.

(50:59) And so that’s what Mr. (51:01) Nisman had found out. (51:02) And it was around that time (51:03) that he started receiving (51:04) threatening phone calls (51:05) because the first (51:06) investigation that began (51:07) in 1994 had been, it had (51:09) basically been a mulligan. (51:10) It wasn’t a, it, it wasn’t (51:12) deliberately covered up.

(51:13) It was just badly run. (51:14) Uh, he was brought in to (51:16) fix it. (51:16) And as he started to, it (51:18) started getting more (51:18) dangerous for him.

(51:20) And so my money is on a (51:21) murder by an Iranian hit (51:22) because he was a (51:24) prosecutor. (51:24) He could pull up any (51:25) police report he wanted (51:26) to, and he could see if (51:27) he was endangered by some (51:28) sort of criminal concern (51:29) or the police. (51:30) Well, and, and let’s just (51:32) expand a little bit on this (51:34) issue of, you know, the, (51:36) the Nazi hunters looking (51:37) in Argentina for former (51:38) Nazis.

(51:40) If, uh, folks, you pick up (51:41) Paul Sutcliffe’s book, um, (51:43) not Paul Janicek, but Paul (51:44) Sutcliffe, who was on (51:45) earlier this week, it’s (51:46) called, uh, the (51:46) Civilization Jihad. (51:48) He runs through the (51:49) history of the connection (51:50) between the Muslim (51:51) Brotherhood and Nazi (51:52) Germany and Hitler. (51:54) The Muslim Brotherhood (51:56) made a pact and there (51:58) were jihadists that (51:59) actually were fighting in (52:01) Africa on behalf of Hitler’s (52:05) Nazi Germany.

(52:06) So there’s a very strong (52:07) tie between the elements (52:10) that would have been (52:10) involved in this, in this (52:12) issue and Argentina and (52:15) the Nazis. (52:16) And, and, and, and, and (52:16) Oh, there absolutely is. (52:18) Uh, there actually (52:18) absolutely is a strong (52:20) tie.

(52:20) There’s a scholar here in (52:21) DC who I regard enormously, (52:22) uh, who, who did a lot of (52:24) research into that. (52:25) And he really doesn’t have (52:25) a dog in the fight. (52:27) He studied it objectively (52:28) and, and his, his, his (52:30) summary lesson for me was (52:31) they had learned their (52:32) lesson from World War I (52:33) when, uh, when, uh, uh, (52:36) Arab Islam was used to, (52:39) uh, attenuate the Ottoman (52:40) Empire.

(52:42) Well, precisely. (52:43) And, and so you can go, (52:44) you know, back a long (52:47) ways in recognizing and (52:49) seeing where this (52:51) connectivity exists. (52:53) Okay.

(52:53) So Paul, let’s say that, (52:55) uh, there is evidence that (52:56) supports that Iran is (52:57) involved in this. (52:58) Let’s say that, that the (52:59) Iranians are doing this. (53:01) As to the point that I (53:02) mentioned earlier, you (53:03) know, the danger of now (53:05) having two Sunni (53:06) organizations, Al Qaeda (53:07) and ISIS fighting for some (53:10) form of supremacy.

(53:11) And now you’ve got Iran, (53:13) which is the Shiites, and (53:14) they have a different (53:15) approach, but nonetheless, (53:17) they’re still fighting for (53:18) the same, uh, caliphate (53:22) designation. (53:23) Uh, how dangerous is it (53:25) now that, that, that we’re (53:26) watching them, you know, (53:27) reach out and engage in (53:29) these kinds of activities? (53:30) What, what does this (53:31) signal to us? (53:33) This should signal (53:34) something that people (53:35) seem to be missing and (53:36) including, unfortunately, (53:38) the administration. (53:39) And that is that, uh, you (53:40) have right now a civil war (53:42) going on in Yemen.

(53:43) People keep using the word (53:44) coup, they’re misusing its (53:45) meaning, but you have a (53:47) civil war going on in (53:48) Yemen, where the rebels (53:51) that are attacking the (53:52) government are backed and (53:53) financed by Iran. (53:55) You have rumblings in (53:56) Lebanon. (53:57) Hezbollah has been making (53:57) noises that they’re going (53:58) to invade the Galilee and (54:00) abduct people and take them (54:01) back to Lebanon.

(54:02) Uh, you have, uh, the (54:04) Iranians propping up the (54:05) Syrian regime against ISIS. (54:07) Uh, you have a lot of (54:09) connection points, but in (54:11) the final analysis, what’s (54:12) scary is that the Shiite (54:14) side of the divide has been (54:16) doing the majority of the (54:17) fighting and the Iranians (54:19) have woken up and they’ve (54:19) decided that they’re going (54:20) to get out on the world (54:21) stage. (54:22) And now we’re going to (54:23) enter into normalized (54:25) relations with them and (54:26) give them the ability to (54:30) nuclearize their armory.

(54:32) Well, I don’t know that (54:33) we’re going to give them (54:34) the ability to do that, but (54:35) we’ll certainly take the (54:36) pressure off. (54:37) Not a good thing, folks. (54:38) Not a good thing.

(54:40) Paul Janicek has been my (54:41) guest. (54:42) Paul, I appreciate you (54:43) being here this morning. (54:44) Thank you, sir.

(54:45) Thank you. (54:46) It’s always my pleasure. (54:46) And we’ll get you back (54:47) next week.

(54:48) Michael Hovelman. (54:49) Michael, thanks for being (54:49) here. (54:50) Thank you, Pastor.

(54:50) Appreciate it. (54:51) Absolutely. (54:52) Eric Brown, thank you for (54:53) being with us today.